, romney had a great debate night. is it go to bring a bigger turnout? does it help romney? >> it could bring a bigger turnout. i'm a big supporter of governor romney and i want to see him do wm. michigan is a poster child for what washington needs to do. washington is a mess. we've shown in michigan and some of the surrounding states that we know how to balance a budget and pay down liabilities and done tax reform. it's a great comeback story. we did that in a year and a half. there's no reason washington couldn't do the right thing with the right leadership. >> can can i ask one last question. you opposed this going on as a state constitutional right. i get that. where is collective bargaining now? is it good in some places, not good in others? how does it work now, and where would the changes be? >> well, that's one of the things, larry. when they talk about it, they call it collective bargaining proposal. it has it's role and place. i've done it successful twice now with state employee groups and it works well. wha